Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:17:13 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt <jwyatt@RWSystems.net> To: rcramer@sytex.net Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9907160026510.26257-100000@kasie.rwsystems.net> In-Reply-To: <199907160126.VAA03787@cscfx.sytex.com>
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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote:
> > > On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote:
> > > We are currently developing the RAS Software for the Ariel Board. Will
> > > keep you informed of progress.
> >
> > Cool, can your sales guy *please* leave me alone until you get it
> > supporting radius on FreeBSD? Teach him what 'no' means. I also don't
> > understand how your answer fits his question. Are you going to do RAS
> > under FreeBSD? Are you sticking to Windows only? (Either is OK, of course,
> > I just didn't understand the answer.)
>
> Jy,
FWIW: Uh, That is J Y@ (as in J(ames) Wy-at(t), though it isn't too
obvious. 8{( I've always wanted to have a font with a 'y' in the middle of
the '@', rather than an 'a'. Looks like an odd cattle brand as a .GIF...
> Based on your response, as I read it, you will be probably the last I
> let know. A "sales guy" did not answer your email I did. "Leave you
> alone", most certainly! However do not then post querries to the FreeBSD
> lists! In reference to your questions my read of your email says you
> do not want to know anything until it is fully operational.
Please reread my response as I wasn't talking about your polite email
responding to *someone else's question*, but the *seven* phone calls I
have received since asking for some documentation by snail-mail. I have
told him we do NT clients, not servers for dialup and he won't quit. The
original mailing filled my every need and I appreciated it. Now I keep
getting told that RAS is *so* much better than PPP because it can do
NetBEUI, etc... because "...it is based on Windows". Uh, right... The guy
on the phone just doesn't get that *he* 1) won't convert me to using NT
servers for dialup support, and 2) likely won't sell a good product here
even when/if it is offered on FreeBSD (or Linux) at this point.
> In reference to Windows, you posed a question on a FreeBSD list, about a
> board that you wanted to run under FreeBSD, and the subject of my response
> was RS2000 and FreeBSD. How does one extrapolate to Windows? Retorical,
> do not anwser!
In reference to accuracy, *I* did not pose a question; "Len Conrad" was
"fishing around availability of the Ariel PRI RS2000 card under fbsd" in
message <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com>. You popped-up
with a seeming non-sequitur of "We are currently developing RAS software
for the Ariel Board.", never mentioning FreeBSD, just RAS and Ariel. I
then mistook you for someone who might work with Ariel folks and get them
to stop calling. I also missed where RAS was a non-Windows layer as far as
Ariel was concerned - remember the fool who has been calling me... Can you
*please* educate me/us on the Unix RAS stuff you are working on? The board
looks great, given some drivers and support! And why shouldn't I answer
when I have done more research? (and maybe more spell-checking) 8{(
> FYI I am a technical engineer, and the President of Sytex Access Ltd, and
> the Founder and Organizer of the FreeBSD User Group in Metropolitan
> Washington DC, USA.
I got the President part from your .sig, but not the FreeBSD part. (fwiw:
I've always wondered what living in DC area would be like, I could live at
the Smithsonian) I apologize for taking you as an Ariel employee and being
confused at seeing RAS and Unix so close together. You never answered my
question about RAS on FreeBSD - it wasn't rhetorical, but genuine. Can you
see where I might extrapolate it to Windows? I can't see how you can get
Len and me confused, we don't look alike at all... 8{)
I appreciate the time you took in researching and responding, and I
*would* have great interest in an inexpensive board that handled dual T1s
for dialup under FreeBSD via PCI. If it did radius and *talked to*
NT/98/etc clients well, all the better! We have taken-on beta products
before (incl. Chicago/Cairo/Merlin/smail), so it doesn't even have to be
fully finished. Take care and have fun - Jy@
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