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Date:      Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:47:39 +0200
From:      Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Cc:        "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net>
Subject:   Re: boot banner project
Message-ID:  <200504272347.43354.lofi@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050427212637.GL98718@over-yonder.net>
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On Wednesday, 27. April 2005 23:26, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 03:03:06PM -0400 I heard the voice of
>
> Mike Edenfield, and lo! it spake thus:
> > One possible alternative to an all-out graphics display would be a
> > 'prettified' text console.  I'm thinking of what Gentoo and older RedHat
> > systems did (haven't used RH in years, dunno if this still applies)
> > where about 80% of the system log messages are hidden behind a simple
> > task list:
> >
> > Mounting File Systems ... [ok]
> > Starting xl0          ... [ok]
>
> This is something I've always found somewhat ironic, actually.  I'm
> not really sure overall whether I like it or not, but it IS very
> structured and consistent.

Yes, it consistently hides (or worse, discards) useful information - be it 
status messages, errors or otherwise. Most distros don't bother about the 
possible return codes of each service in detail either, so every condition 
that could occur is reduced to [ok] or [failed]. Even the NT eventlog isn't 
that dumb.

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