Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 22:51:40 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: Joel Ray Holveck <joelh@gnu.org> Cc: smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com, tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) Message-ID: <27823.899790700@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 07 Jul 1998 00:40:48 CDT." <199807070540.AAA10832@detlev.UUCP>
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> Now, will everybody please quit telling me why it exists, or why a fix
> is nontrivial? (If anybody thinks that not being able to run X when
> securelevel > 1 is the Right Thing, I would be happy to continue
> discussion.)
Erm, but what did you expect? Calling it a bug without attaching a
fix is one of the most useless activities imaginable since the folks
who are capable of "fixing" it already know why it's there and what
the trade-offs are, so you're only going to get lots of the above from
them ("this is why it exists, this is why a fix is non-trivial").
Those who aren't capable of fixing it aren't going to contribute much
that's useful to the discussion either except for lots of "yeah! why
does it work that way? Somebody should do something! I'm going to
write my congressman!" :-)
Truly, standing up on a soapbox and calling it a bug is Not Useful and
has already been done before by a succession of previous soapbox
orators (check out the OpenBSD mailing lists sometime for a whole
book's worth of material on the topic). Suggesting some real,
tangible approach to dealing with it would be a welcome switch from
the usual.
- Jordan
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