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Date:      Tue, 30 Apr 2024 23:16:29 +0200
From:      Florian Walpen <dev@submerge.ch>
To:        freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Simulating guitar stack
Message-ID:  <5853048.8T7jmnknE8@x230>
In-Reply-To: <81967489-dd50-4ace-bdad-88100c7cfc0c@tilda.center>
References:  <81967489-dd50-4ace-bdad-88100c7cfc0c@tilda.center>

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Hi Meka,

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 12:30:14 PM CEST Goran Meki=C4=87 wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> For quite a few years I know impulse response exists. Few days ago I
> learned that neural audio exists and that
> https://github.com/brummer10/Ratatouille.lv2 combines these two
> technologies and makes it easy to use.

I did experiment some years ago. That didn't include neural amp models back=
=20
then, but I just had a listen to some current NAM demos and my verdict is=20
still the same:

 - Most pedals can be easily reproduced in software.
 - Nothing in software sounds like a real tube amp (yet).
 - Speakers can be reproduced well by IR software.

Means if you really care about tube amp tone, use a tube amp or at least a=
=20
hardware amp modeler that utilizes tubes (I have an old one made by VOX). T=
hat=20
said, many people will not hear the difference in a complete mix, and for=20
heavily distorted sounds it's less relevant.

I personally don't use software effect pedals. For Speaker simulation I=20
recommend the lsp-plugins IR processor, and I apply some older free IRs fro=
m=20
Kalthallen Cabs.

> I anyone in FreeBSD community
> working/experimenting with these and if yes, how does one generates IR
> and neural audio on FreeBSD? If it's still not possible on FreeBSD, does
> anyone know what's missing? I would be very much interested in porting
> the required libs/apps. Thank you!

=46or the reasons above I am not that interested, but I can certainly try t=
o=20
help if you get stuck somewhere. There seem to be a variety of tools availa=
ble=20
for linux. Maybe just start by porting the Ratatouille plugin and go for mo=
del=20
creation later?

Cheers

=46lorian






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