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Date:      Mon, 1 Dec 1997 02:02:26 -0500
From:      Mark Mayo <mark@vmunix.com>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        Jacques Vidrine <nectar@NECTAR.COM>, Alex <garbanzo@hooked.net>, "hackers@freebsd.org" <hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Out of Box experience (Was: Re: How is selection made of what goes into CDrom?)
Message-ID:  <19971201020226.10663@vmunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <19477.880953184@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 09:13:04PM -0800
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971130224527.25445B-100000@kai.communique.net> <19477.880953184@time.cdrom.com>

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On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 09:13:04PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > ... I _am_ saying that software with such licenses should not be used in
> > the implementation of FreeBSD itself or essential FreeBSD utilities, such
> > as sysinstall.  Why carry such luggage?
> 
> What?  Eh?  I wasn't talking about doing anything of the sort in
> FreeBSD.  Sysinstall in Qt certainly isn't on *my* todo list and I
> doubt that it ever would be unless somebody suddenly decided that they
> wanted to pay me $100,000 to do it or something :-).

Has anyone ever looked into the QNX micro-gui (or whatever they call it
these days) stuff?? You can download a floppy from their site that
will boot a full "X-like" GUI, run a web server, make a PPP connection,
and give you a web browser. It's nothing short of astonishing. Their
technique appears to be very similar to FreeBSD's, essentially
uncompressing a kernel and firing up a MFS to hold everything. Very
Unix like, although it would appear QNX is trying to disassociate
themselves from anything UNIX'y lately...

The second I started the thing up, visions of the slickest OS install
in the world were flashing through my head... The FreeBSD Photon-GUI
installer. Now that would grab attention. 

I wonder if QNX would *ever* consider donating the tools to FreeBSD
in return for a "QNX ad" at the start up of the install? I doubt
it, but they are less and less "competition" all the time. I know
someone who works there, I'll give him a call and run the idea by him.
At the very least, I'm going to see how much they charge, and if
they have a royalty free license, which I'm sure they do. Man it would
make such a kick-ass FreeBSD installer!!  :-)

-Mark

> 
> I was simply reacting to your implication (cited below) that KDE
> shouldn't use it.
> 
> 						Jordan
> 
> 
> > 
> > Jacques Vidrine <n@nectar.com>
> > 
> > > > Only KDE depends upon Qt, which doesn't have an appropriate software
> > > > license. 

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