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Date:      Tue, 09 Jan 2024 06:16:13 -0600
From:      robert@rrbrussell.com
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: noatime on ufs2
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On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, at 05:13, void wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 09:47:59AM +0100, Olivier Certner wrote:i
>
>> So, to me, at this point, it still sounds more than a gimmick 
>> than something really useful.  If someone has a precise use case 
>> for it and motivation, than of course please go ahead.
>
> The only use-cases I [1] can think of are either with an email system 
> that needs it or with something like a webserver where there's
> a team of devops working on the web service who need elevated access
> and a couple of sysadmins who need root for their general job, and audit
> or similar is used to log these accesses.
>
> But maybe there are more use-cases for atime? 
>
> but as has been mentioned, most modern mail systems don't need it
> and I'm not sure how much something like audit would. Do things
> like tripwire/mtree need it? It's an interesting question.

No, they use other data and checksums instead of access times.

>
> [1] in my limited experience. i've only seen email "needing" it
> and that's only in some contexts
> --



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