Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 10:06:34 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" <michaelv@HeadCandy.com> To: "Charles C. Figueiredo" <marxx@apocalypse.superlink.net> Cc: "Brett L. Hawn" <blh@nol.net>, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd + synfloods + ip spoofing Message-ID: <199605211706.KAA15825@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 21 May 96 07:18:54 -0400. <Pine.BSF.3.91.960521071632.1399B-100000@apocalypse.superlink.net>
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>> >and the such need to generate their own headers. Besides, unless your
>> >clueless losers and lame crackers gain root, they can't open raw sockets.
>> Any PC with an ethernet card on the network can open "raw" packets.
> You're right, that was my point exactly. User's on his servers aren't
>going to be opening raw sockets, like was mentioned. It's a raw socket,
>not a packet.
>> And they might not even have to be there while the sniffer collects
>> data. I've seen the consequences first-hand.
> This has absolutely nothing to do with sniffing, we're talking about
>IP spoofing + TCP sequence number generation/prediction, get it straight.
Whatever. For many people, sniffing is just part one of spoofing.
Once you're that far, there isn't a whole lot left to get to spoofing.
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