Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:49:46 +0100 From: "Lucas B. Cohen" <lbc@bnrlabs.com> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010?? Message-ID: <50AA00BA.1040007@bnrlabs.com> In-Reply-To: <20121118085838.GA7267@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121118085838.GA7267@ethic.thought.org>
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On 2012.11.18 09:58, Gary Kline wrote: > > > I probably should cc the hardward guys about this. first, see if it > geta any traction here, tho. my tech guy got me a Delll 3010 > that has an "improved" [[meaning screwed up]] BIOS with some > hardware mess called the UEFI. > > Trying to get ssh to work *bi-directionally* i royally f'ked up my > installation for well over 27 hours. ssh still fails to connect going > in to my "new tao"; but this time I know what to avoid. my > question is simple: of what use is this new/improved POS setup? > > im sure its the same for every flavor of unix. my view is that it > mjust makes using non-windozw that much more painful. > > gary > Gary, UEFI is more than a modified BIOS, it's something to get rid of the BIOS altogether. It's the x86 BIOS that arguably deserves much more to be called a screwed up POS, as it carries with it 30 years worth of legacy weirdness, kludges to go around them in modern systems, and a whole catalog of vendor-specific bugs and non-compliant implementations. UEFI was designed to solve a bunch of problems for manufacturers and advanced users, I'm not so sure that it deserves so much heat. What I'm sure of, is that there's no relationship between your new machine's UEFI and your ssh issues. I'm also sure that this has nothing to do with FreeBSD. Best of luck getting your work done on your new machine.
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