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Date:      Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:59:48 -0500 (EST)
From:      Ray Kohler <ataraxia@cox.net>
To:        ataraxia@cox.net, listsub@401.cx
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sendmail without (real) hostname?
Message-ID:  <200211071159.gA7Bxmhm009964@arkadia.nv.cox.net>
In-Reply-To: <3DCA182D.9020500@401.cx>

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> From listsub@401.cx Thu Nov  7 02:45:04 2002
> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:37:17 +0100
> From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx>
> To: Ray Kohler <ataraxia@cox.net>
> CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: sendmail without (real) hostname?
>
> Ray Kohler wrote:
> > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2002-11-06 20:47, Ray Kohler  wrote:
> >>
> >> Funny.  All ISPs that have a tiny sort of sense and respect for their
> >> users that have dynamically allocated IP addresses will usually
> >> provide at least one mail relay.  If not for any other reason, to let
> >> them send email to servers that refuse all messages from hosts whose
> >> forward and reverse DNS lookups fail (a lot of the servers use this as
> >> a form of antispam measure).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's a `no servers allowed' ISP.
> > 
> > - @
> > 
>
> And if you wanted to send mail from a regular mailclient, like 
> Outlook Express, would they allow that?
> If they do, they must still provide you with a server that relays 
> your email.
>
> --
> R
>
>
>
>

Outlook sets the `from:' part of the envelope to something valid,
whereas sendmail (before this fix) was honest about it and was
denied at that point.

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