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Date:      Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:13 -0800
From:      Gordon Tetlow <gordont@gnf.org>
To:        Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Proposal regarding the RFC 3514 handling
Message-ID:  <20030403232913.GU69100@roark.gnf.org>
In-Reply-To: <200304031312.XAA13954@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au>
References:  <20030402194821.C33692A8A5@canning.wemm.org> <200304031312.XAA13954@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au>

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On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:12:39PM +1000, Darren Reed wrote:
> In some email I received from Peter Wemm, sie wrote:
> [...]
> > On the other hand, we have so much cruft in the ip input/output code pa=
ths
> > (2 or 3 different packet filter hooks etc), this is tiny by comparison.
>=20
> Now that April 1 is far behind, I'll mention that I've been looking
> at ways to amalgamate the mechanisms used by ipfw/ipfilter to address
> this problem.  Without being insulting, my 5 second grab on this is
> that ipfw has grown like a tumour inside the ip stack with bits and
> pieces hooked in here and there and everywhere (exageration.)  That
> is to say I think should be and can be better than they are.

Not to mention that the last time I tried to build a kernel without
INET, all the errors seemed to be a result of ipfw (iirc, this was a
long time ago, it might be fixed now).

-gordon

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