Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:15:35 -0800 From: chip <chip@wiegand.org> To: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net> Cc: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU>, "f.johan.beisser" <jan@caustic.org>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Intaller (was "Re: ... RedHat ...") Message-ID: <200201232316523.SM01952@there> In-Reply-To: <20020124004312.A2760@over-yonder.net> References: <20020123114658.A514@lpt.ens.fr> <20020123223104.SM01952@there> <20020124004312.A2760@over-yonder.net>
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On Wednesday 23 January 2002 10:43 pm, Matthew D. Fuller banged out on the keys: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 10:31:16PM -0800 I heard the voice of > > chip, and lo! it spake thus: > > On Wednesday 23 January 2002 04:57 pm, Terry Lambert banged out on the keys: > > > FreeBSD's disk "slicing" and "partitioning" really sucks. > > > > > > It's pretty damn unforgiving, in fact. > > > Grrr. > > > > I know there are many other ways to set up partitions, with multiple OS's > > etc, but it never was as difficult as I've read and been led to believe. > > [...] > > > Or, maybe I've just been 'lucky' and not had any problems? :-) > > I'd lean toward that option personally. > > The installer isn't terribly bad in the best-case scenario. It just > doesn't handle the edge cases very well at all. That could be a big part of it, my machines are all older AMD K-6 series, older 15" monitors, nothing new inside. So it's all supported. > For instance, when using SLIP (or hardwired PPP or PLIP, I imagine), > you're in deep trouble if you've never done it before. Again, I must've been lucky. I got user PPP up and running in less than an hour, including attaching the external modem. I've read lots of messages by people who just can't figure it out. The example file was mostly what I used, and it just worked. > You have to > remember to put in the 'other ifconfig options' section the far-end > address of the link, or it won't work; unless you've manually ifconfig'd > SLIP lines a number of times, you'll forget. Then it'll run slattach. > If you don't get it right the first time, you're screwed, because it'll > never clear the old attachment correctly. Gotta reboot and start over. I've never had a need to set up SLIP, is it even used anymore? > The first time through, it can be kinda hairy just figuring out what you're > doing). I'm sure there are, especially setting up a dual-boot system. I just haven't experienced any problems with the partitioning part of the install. > Ever have that joy in places like the > 'custom distribution choices' for the custom installation, where you're > not quite sure whether enter or space is select, and the wrong choice > will bump you back menus? I seem to recall that happening, but not to the point of screwing up the install or causing me to start over, just an inconvience. > (Tried installing, then installing X? It dumps on a few compat_* sets. I have always installed X during the initial OS install, except for when I upgraded X to 4.01 or whatever the latest was a couple months ago. > It works apparently smoothly in the best-case. In most simple-cases, it > won't feel worse than rough-around-the-edges. Start making mistakes, or > trying to get intricate, though, and it feels rather like wearing your > high school sweater to your 30th reunion. Maybe so. I have always done the install do a dedicated disk, and have suggested the same to others, simply because it's so easy that way. Once again, I guess I've just been lucky so far. Maybe as my experience expands I'll start seeing some of what you describe (I hope not though) :-) Regards, -- Chip <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+> Windows 95/NT - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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