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Date:      Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:12:09 -0600
From:      "Andrew L. Gould" <algould@datawok.com>
To:        Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, speedydemon@shadowdev.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?bor?= <gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu>, Frank Laszlo <laszlof@vonostingroup.com>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1?=
Subject:   Re: Flash Petition (Was Re: FreeBSD as a Desktop Article)
Message-ID:  <20060109081209.114ce611@grokwell.org>
In-Reply-To: <ef10de9a0601090332l3093fbe3j8a6234aeb74e6d59@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 05:32:48 -0600
Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/8/06, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> >
> > > On 1/5/06, Frank Laszlo <laszlof@vonostingroup.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> K=F6vesd=E1n G=E1bor wrote:
> > >>> Nikolas Britton wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 1/4/06, James Cornell <speedydemon@shadowdev.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> never mind, I just made one so go sign it!!!
> > >>>> http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> I've signed it and posted it to a Hungarian open-source
> > >>> community, but I think it would be nice if somebody from the
> > >>> doc team can add it to the news on the website, so I cc'd
> > >>> freebsd-doc@, I hope this helps geting Adobe to release a
> > >>> working Flash for FreeBSD.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Gabor Kovesdan
> > >>
> > >> Not to rain on the parade, but since when has one of those online
> > >> petitions done any good?
> > >>
> > >
> > > It may be trivial but at least I did something to rectify it.
> > > Talking about are problems will get us nowhere unless we also do.
> > > Do you have a better plan of action?
> >
> > The problem is, anyone can sign a petition, even those that don't,
> > nor will ever, use the software, which is what makes them
> > meaningless :(
> >
> > You really need to get someone on the inside that is using FreeBSD
> > and push from that direction ... unless its a product you can pay
> > for, and then you make the dollars speak for you ...
>=20
> I make all IT, purchasing, decisions at my company. I suspect most
> other senior IT folk also make or have strong influence in,
> purchasing, decisions at their company's. What are the demographics
> for people who use FreeBSD? I suspect a higher then normal percentage
> of senior IT folk make up the ranks. Here's an excellent example of
> the point I'm trying to make: Last year my company wanted to build a
> flash website. I put my foot down and said no, not everyone can use or
> see flash websites. Macromedia lost a $999 dollar sale.
>=20
> >
> > What about the FreeBSD Foundation ... maybe something that they can
> > organize?
>=20
> I'm all for that and other organisations getting involved, maybe they
> can actually do something too.

How about a campaign where every time a FreeBSD user comes across a
Flash website, he/she sends the webmaster an email stating that we
can't see their content because Flash is not available for FreeBSD?  I
wonder if we could generate a noticeable volume.

Andrew



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