Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:25:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson <ratson@FreeBSD.org> To: Scott Long <scottl@FreeBSD.org> Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1041129101602.94120F-100000@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <200411290132.iAT1WAse056942@repoman.freebsd.org>
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Scott Long wrote: > Disable the beastie menu. It offends some and annoys everyone else, and I'm > frankly tired of the controversy. When people ask me why FreeBSD isn't user- > friendly, I'll tell them that I tried. RIP. I thought that most of the objections I heard were to the Beastie, not the menu, but perhaps I misunderstood... The only technical objection I've had to the menu is that the clear screen it issues before rendering causes some terminal emulators to loose some scroll back, suggesting we might want to generate a CR, 25 LF's, then pick up with the menu to push the console contents present previously outside the area cleared. I've seen one or two bug reports where panic messages have been obscured as a result of the clear screen but that's easy to work around. FWIW, I think the menu is a very good idea, as it provides users wth an easy option to disable ACPI and try variations on hardware probing on i386, which sadly, is highly necessary. Especially with the 2-4 year old generation of machine that is typically available to "experiment with" and suffers from the worst ACPI quirkiness. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Principal Research Scientist, McAfee Research
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