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Date:      Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:53:22 -0800
From:      Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>
To:        Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Damien Bergamini <damien@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/iwi Makefile src/sys/dev/iwi if_iwi.c if_iwireg.h if_iwivar.h
Message-ID:  <4380B812.7020507@errno.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051120013533.F10822@odysseus.silby.com>
References:  <200511191654.jAJGsu9n022860@repoman.freebsd.org> <43801038.7050109@errno.com> <438023A1.50002@root.org> <20051120013533.F10822@odysseus.silby.com>

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Mike Silbersack wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nate Lawson wrote:
> 
>> Right, but such an approach won't work for storage drivers like 
>> isp(4). Couldn't you just generalize the approach used by ispfw(4)?  
>> It uses the kld module approach to get the firmware into kernel memory.
>>
>> -- 
>> Nate
> 
> 
> For something like a network driver, preloading the firmware into a kld 
> is a waste of memory.  The exception would be if you were to try 
> netbooting from a iwi card, but that seems unlikely to be a common problem.
> 
> Until someone does come up with the official "FreeBSD" way to load 
> firmware, let's stop kibitzing about this commit and let Damien get back 
> to work.

It's not a question of kibbitzing; there's been discussion about dealing 
with this issue with a general mechanism and not sticking individual 
solutions in drivers.  Doing this would mean not having to answer the 
immediate followup questions like "what about ipw".

	Sam


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