Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 20:55:36 -0600 From: Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org> To: Terry Kennedy <TERRY@tmk.com> Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [rfc] Add boot-time warning messages to PAE kernels Message-ID: <1413428136.12052.481.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> In-Reply-To: <01PDSJPDFY7O000821@tmk.com> References: <01PDSJPDFY7O000821@tmk.com>
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On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 21:54 -0400, Terry Kennedy wrote: > > I'm not sure where you got the idea that i386 hardware is long out of > > production. google "industrial single-board computer" some time for an > > alternate take on what's producing and shipping and still in control of > > a non-trivial slice of our daily lives. When we ship i386-based > > products at $work it's using brand new hardware. > > I was speaking of the general x86 desktop / workstation / server market. > I had assumed that embedded use of FreeBSD required rather extensive cus- > tiomization to fit it in the desired memory space. Yeah, if by "extensive customization" you mean a custom kernel config, a makefile that sets a good number of the available WITH and WITHOUT build controls, and an install script that prunes away some of the userland binaries that are big and not needed on a product. The reason I replied in the first place is that everybody speaks of "the general x86 desktop / workstation / server market" as if that covers everything. Embedded folks use FreeBSD too, pretty much out of the box using the existing controls it provides. Sometimes it's a struggle to keep that a viable option, because there are certainly more users in the categories you mentioned. -- Ian
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