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Date:      Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:51:24 -0700
From:      Tim Gerchmez <fewtch@serv.net>
To:        Zach Heilig <zach@gaffaneys.com>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Fave Window Manager... found it.
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.19980623195124.008076a0@mx.serv.net>
In-Reply-To: <19980623212743.A10294@znh.org.>
References:  <3.0.5.32.19980623181159.007f6100@mx.serv.net> <3.0.5.32.19980623181159.007f6100@mx.serv.net>

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I'm not familiar with twm, I don't even know if I tried it or not.  There
are a lot of window managers out there...

I think the thing that attracts people to KDE is that it comes with all
kinds of extra utilities and goodies that the others don't.  But the more
window managers I try, the more alike all of them seem to me, except for
"on the face"... and even there, they are a lot of similarities.  The thing
I like about fvwm2 is that you don't need to mess much with icons (see
below) and can set up pop-up menus instead (extremely easy to configure in
.fvwm2rc), which I greatly prefer to keeping track of icons for everything.

One problem with X in general I've found is locating pixmaps/icons for all
your apps and getting all the paths straight... I have pixmaps stored all
over my hard drive in various locations.  Something needs to be done about
this in a future release of X... some kind of central pixmap/icon
repository or something - it could get out of hand with having 40 or 50
different directories containing pixmaps and other icons scattered all over
the place.

Anyway, I'm CC'ing this to the list, I hope you don't mind.  You sent it
directly to me but I didn't see anything personal in it.

At 09:27 PM 6/23/98 -0500, Zach Heilig wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 06:11:59PM -0700, Tim Gerchmez wrote:
>> isn't bad, but why use a  fake imitation of Win95... and KDE was completely
>> beyond me (I couldn't even get it up and running except for a brief flash
>> of the desktop followed by being kicked back out of X)...so fvwm2 it is
>> until I graduate from newbie to intermediate status anyway.
>
>KDE has some big problems setting up.  What helped me a lot was realizing it
>put error messages in the file '~/.xsession-errors'.
>
>I still did not like it very much after getting it to work.  I finally
settled
>back on twm.  It comes with X, and I already had menus set up I've been using
>for several years.  And, it doesn't cover the desktop with useless clutter.
>
>There are some programs that need to be run in ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession-- I
>forget which kde uses) to make kde work right.


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