Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:51:42 -0800 From: Don Wilde <dwilde1@ibm.net> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail going commercial, and ? Message-ID: <350E9C0E.5993F369@ibm.net> References: <199803171529.HAA01258@hub.freebsd.org>
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Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:
>
> Don Wilde wrote:
> > FWIR, the free track is _still_ free, isn't it? I thought source of 8.9
> > would be available, just not the so-called 'Pro' enhancements. As
> > Jonathan says, it serves me well, although certainly a .cf-rule-writing
> > front end would be a blessing.
>
> the .cf-rule-writing front end is the m4 preprocessor
> and the example .mc files in ..../sendmail/cf/cf
>
> its much better than in the days before using m4 ;)
> (i remember when real programmers used butterfly switches
> to hammer in the code........;)
>
Smile when you say that... I learned assembly on an Intel SDK-86, and
all my classwork -- including compiler-writing in CDC-6400 assembly --
was done on punch cards with 24-hour debug turnaround.
> > I might suggest that the same comments about 'abomination' have run
> > through my mind about the C language itself... ;)
>
> gawd....dont go there.....we start talking about C++
> and "whee lets add yet another meaning for the keyword static".
> jmb
Sorry I'm rehashing this thread long after you guys did. I used to be an
assembly programmer, and I thought between that, LISP and Smalltalk I
had it covered. The old commercial bugaboo bit me hard and I've grown
tired of being pinched by Digitalk / ParcPlace and M$ for a G$ every
year just to have the privilege. I'll learn my C and like it, thank you,
and my M4, and my YACC, and my Xt, and I'll discover the elegance you
all already know is there. I was finally cured by finding a
syntax-driven language that's _worse_ than C: PERL. Those so-called
'global' variables are absolutely impossible to remember. Once you train
yourself to see parsing and syntactic elements like %% and {} as they
are meant to be, C ain't soooo bad.
Don
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