Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 02:40:41 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu> To: Sam Lawrance <boris@brooknet.com.au> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD deciding _now_ what to do about Linux Message-ID: <4673B019.5080203@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <A23625CF-A396-48F5-8959-63C0858EFCC1@brooknet.com.au> References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0706151307480.18437@hymn01.u.washington.edu> <A23625CF-A396-48F5-8959-63C0858EFCC1@brooknet.com.au>
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Sam Lawrance wrote: > > On 16/06/2007, at 6:07 AM, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > >> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Ali Mashtizadeh wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Sun's pushing ATI/AMD to provide good drivers for Solaris, so it >>> means they >>> will have to work on the portability issue of their drivers. It is >>> probably >>> the best time to influence AMD's decision since they are going to do >>> what >>> Sun tells them. Nvidia has an easier time porting their drivers >>> since the >>> core of the driver is the same across all platforms AFAIK. >>> Hopefully, they >>> will realize the best stratedgy is to open source their drivers, >>> which there >>> has been some hints about it recently. >>> >>> -- >>> Ali Mashtizadeh >>> علی مشتی زاده >>> >>> On 6/15/07, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 02:03:39PM -0400, Ali Mashtizadeh wrote: >>>> > Hey everyone, >>>> > >>>> > This email went out on Xorg I thought it might be useful for all >>>> of us >>>> stuck >>>> > with ATI cards. We should all show our interest in AMD helping >>>> out the >>>> BSD >>>> > community as well! Just like Nvidia has been doing! >>>> >>>> "Linux strategy" -- gotta love the use of the word "strategy", like >>>> they're playing chess or Risk or Daisenryaku. Yes, because supporting >>>> an operating system involves "strategy". >>>> >>>> Not to sound rude, but I wouldn't hold your breath over the statement. >>>> Yes, *absolutely* mail them and show support for the BSDs, and tell >>>> them >>>> you'll be happy to beta test whatever they put out (as long as they >>>> have >>>> a good feedback method for reporting those bugs; not some defunct HTML >>>> form web page that sends submissions to /dev/null). >>>> >>>> I believe AMD/ATI cares about providing a good driver base (for Linux >>>> and probably the BSDs), but no matter how many customers mail them, >>>> the >>>> reality of the situation is a disappointing one: managers and >>>> executives >>>> of sorts are who have say over all of this, who decide all of this, >>>> and >>>> who ultimately make the statements on all of this. As a Texan >>>> co-worker >>>> of mine says, "too many chiefs, not enough indians". nVidia has the >>>> same "problem", for what it's worth. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at >>>> parodius.com | >>>> | Parodius Networking >>>> http://www.parodius.com/ | >>>> | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, >>>> CA, USA | >>>> | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: >>>> 4BD6C0CB | >> >> 1. This shouldn't have been sent to the hackers@ list, because it's >> more of a discussion than a technical topic. >> 2. Please top post. >> >> Disregarding those 2 comments, I have a few thoughts: > > I'd certainly disregard that second point. > > :-) Yes. s/top post/don't top post/ -Garrett
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