Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 11:02:11 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Mateusz Guzik <mjg@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r344648 - in head: . sys/kern sys/sys Message-ID: <d6ef090a-6e36-e353-7e6f-28b7a28d46c0@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqFpgH35PcmAN_qMgbY9wRZ=MH=ntgGBgtZWcKJrrRh2w@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAK7dMtB9gDtJ6tSF=z%2B3tCUB6arhH9_mMk0X4546gdP0RytaXg@mail.gmail.com> <201905312217.x4VMH3YH031668@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <CAK7dMtCksKQY3Yjz_uGbcT0gxj8Xz3=RDGyT9iGYN_Wpqc78bA@mail.gmail.com> <CANCZdfqFpgH35PcmAN_qMgbY9wRZ=MH=ntgGBgtZWcKJrrRh2w@mail.gmail.com>
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On 01/06/2019 03:46, Warner Losh wrote: > When we move to git, stuff like this just won't matter. So it's hard to get > worked up about it now... and even if we weren't heading that way, the history > preserved is so small as to say more than "meh" here. There is too little ROI to > get worked up about. Still, even a token reply would have been nice. Much better than starting to ignore *everything* that a fellow developer writes. "Yeah, looks like I screwed up. But fixing it is more work than it's worth. Sorry about that. Thanks." > On Fri, May 31, 2019, 4:56 PM Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com > <mailto:kevin.bowling@kev009.com>> wrote: > > The vast majority of contributors don't enjoy nit-picking on these > trivialities. If the broader developer community is not rallying for > the revert and some core conspiracy doesn't care about it either, that > forms the de facto opinion of the FreeBSD community of today that this > is trivial and irrelevant. > > Yes, there is vocal absolutism on the fringes about SHALLS and MUSTS > about all sorts of things aside from modernizing FreeBSD and making it > viable on current generation hardware. These parties might be happier > and better aligned with OpenBSD ideologically as well as > personalities. > > Regards, > Kevin > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:17 PM Rodney W. Grimes > <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net <mailto:freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>> wrote: > > > > > I know of several people that have blocked your mail. Maybe a moment > > > for reflection on your attitude and approach if you want to be taken > > > seriously. > > > > I would consider repository damange and abuse to be VERY serious. > > I would also consider the treatmeant I am seeing of danfe boarder > > line on contempt. > > But then I also know there are probably some that have blocked me. > > The project, sadly is spiraling around a toilet, and someone is about to > flush.... > > > > It is not what you hear, it is what you are not hearing that makes me say > these things... > > And espcially what core seams to not be willing to hear, and is literly (I > can proove this) > > paying lip service to "solicited feedback". > > > > I asked about some of my solicited feedback, and a core member said he > > could not find it in his inbox and that I needed to locate and provide > > him a pointer to it. THAT my friends is not solicited feedback, that is > > /dev/null of feedback and just plain out right unexcusable. > > > > And note above all else the "product" of the FreeBSD project is NOT > > releases, it IS the repository, and if we get sloppy with that product > > it makes life harder for our consumers. If you have ever tried to > > find the history of a deleted object (which is what the process being > > complained about here creaetes) it is a royal PITA. > > > > Regards, > > Rod > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:50 AM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org > <mailto:danfe@freebsd.org>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 03:20:50PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 09:11:36AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 03:11:40PM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:47:51AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:56:55PM +0000, Mateusz Guzik wrote: > > > > > > > > > New Revision: 344648 > > > > > > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/344648 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Log: > > > > > > > > > Rename seq to seqc to avoid namespace clashes with Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > Added: > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seqc.h (contents, props changed) > > > > > > > > > Deleted: > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seq.h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why it was deleted and added as new file instead of being > repocopied? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Retransmit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ping! > > > > > > > > > > Do you have nothing better to do? > > > > > > > > Oh, I have a lot on my plate, thanks for asking. Now, back to the > subject: > > > > > > > > - I think that this commit was executed badly (not via repocopy) > > > > - I've been trying to contact mjg@ for several weeks, to no avail :( > > > > - All I get in return is an email from a fellow committer asking me > > > > if I have anything better to do > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't understand this. I don't understand why we ignore email > > > > from our own community. I don't understand why we do not correct or at > > > > least explain why what looks like a mistake is actually not(?). I don't > > > > understand why I'm being ridiculed, not those who make dubious commits > > > > and fail to defend them. > > > > > > > > ./danfe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > svn-src-head@freebsd.org <mailto:svn-src-head@freebsd.org> mailing list > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > <mailto:svn-src-head-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rod Grimes > rgrimes@freebsd.org <mailto:rgrimes@freebsd.org> > -- Andriy Gapon
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