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Date:      Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:47:36 -0700
From:      Colin Harford <charford-list@infinithost.com>
To:        Kurt Jaeger <lists@complx.LF.net>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method
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In-Reply-To: <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net>
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I use a similar setting with FreeBSD 5 boxes.

There is a slight change needed in the Makefile.inc1 for the install 
world to work.

I have submitted a patch a few months ago and filled a bug report for 
it. #57539

What I do is, I have a devel box that tests everything, it downloads 
the source code, I compile the code and test it on there for a few days 
before transmitting it to any of the production servers.




On 9-Dec-03, at 2:23 PM, Kurt Jaeger wrote:

> Hi!
>
>> Which verison FreeBSD are you using ?!
>
> Most of the server: 4.9. Some bit-rot, we're working on it.
>
>> How long does it take to complate all process ?!
>
> For one server, if it's fairly recent: approx. 10 minutes of
> person-time, approx. 1-2 hours wall-clock (compiling).
>
>> You mean I can make source up-to-date (cvsup)  / make world process 
>> at this
>> moment server can response to web clients ?!
>
> Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster)
> the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of
> the time, so we do it in multiuser.
>
> The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and
> we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers.
>
>> Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! 
>> or it's
>> not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD
>
> Good question 8-)
>
>> and do you test those process on other machine before apply those 
>> patches to
>> your production server ?!
>
> Yes, intensivly. We first do it to our desktop systems and testservers
> (approx. 40 systems) before we make the rollout to the visible servers.
>
> -- 
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