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Date:      Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:41:00 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?
Message-ID:  <20011229104100.H48518@monorchid.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011228190613.GB1122@raggedclown.net>
References:  <20011228181009.F95692@monorchid.lemis.com> <20011228133613.D25749@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011228190613.GB1122@raggedclown.net>

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On Friday, 28 December 2001 at 20:06:13 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 01:36:13PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>> I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work
>>> machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them.  I'm
>>> currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and
>>> an Athlon XP 1700.  Last August, though, I bought a machine which gave
>>> me a lot of trouble, the Duron 850 mentioned above.  I found that it
>>> would freeze for no apparent reason.  I established that it wasn't the
>>> memory by taking the memory of another machine and running it like
>>> that; it made no difference.  I ended up also changing the motherboard
>>> and the processor, but the hangs continued.   I could expect a hang
>>> within 8 hours when doing 'make release'
>>
>> What I noticed for socketA boards is that they tend to be extremely picky
>> about the memory you feed them. And this is not an ElCheapo mainboard,
>> this is an Asus. Asus is my experience has good mainboards.
>> All sorts of weird crashes, sometimes only after hours of buildworld-stress
>> testing. Keeping everything else the same but swapping the memory
>> solved the issue once and for all.
>
> I believe there is also an issue with some of the high-end Athlons
> running very hot. Co-incidentally I noticed in a local computer shop the
> other day a warning about using the right coolers for AMD processors.

Yes, I've been bitten by this before.

> Next time it goes AWOL see what the Bios thinks the temperature is
> (if it has that possibility in it, mine does). Someone on a linux
> list I am on was reporting temperatures >100C !!

Once it hangs, the temperature probably drops again.  In my
experience, processors lose their minds at a little over 60°.

Greg
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