Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:05 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de> To: Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br> Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD a server and bhyve Message-ID: <D12D97DC-24E4-475D-ABF9-701951D32997@punkt.de> In-Reply-To: <CA%2ByoEx_EvF7oj0ZDrb4ExnBU8qdsFNH24tROu3dDGV513zQgJQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAAdA2WP0hOZUWS9WLKpb_Pvz3HKp-WPdg5Bq_QEEf8JA6=gCRw@mail.gmail.com> <1c1e71ea-9f4f-b4a6-c6bb-f7cd201c0182@gmx.at> <CAAdA2WO7apAxikMzzqq0h5An2Vao5jSruZzt4ooLfJxk9Hh0CA@mail.gmail.com> <eb836f29-b7b5-1121-d5b6-968f2748e53a@nomadlogic.org> <CAAdA2WPnWgC23bzMLfj4isUqmJMXd_oiytu%2BZ0FB2WyoPJ-p6w@mail.gmail.com> <0acc82ba-4779-f006-7ece-a003d0d0759c@nomadlogic.org> <036260EA-C5A3-411E-8FF0-271BE267E14B@punkt.de> <CAAdA2WNYsLHYdhZeOFB8LFM-PMjbLTxEbkH7Jbj36PvuF4u0Lw@mail.gmail.com> <427EACB7-D930-4FBD-AD7E-96AD3AC73D30@punkt.de> <CA%2ByoEx_EvF7oj0ZDrb4ExnBU8qdsFNH24tROu3dDGV513zQgJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Hi Mario, > Are you still using freeNAS or have you switched to TrueNAS? They are one and the same product. Version 11.3 is named FreeNAS Version 12.0 is named TrueNAS Core TrueNAS Core is currently in beta testing. I use it at home but have not yet updated our company production systems. I will as soon as there is an official release. > Do you favor the switch or stick with FreeNAS? As I said, there is no switch. > Are they both ZFS only? Yes, of course. They are the same thing. > I haven't used either of them but I want to experiment with it. If you are just starting, IMHO don’t shy away from the beta version. I run it in power-user/semi-professional production: file sharing, 5 VMs, 6 jails, most with Internet facing applications, simply great. The main advantage is that FreeNAS <=11.3 has always had issues when FreeBSD versions reached their EOL due to the development model. FN 11.3 is based on FreeBSD RELENG_11_3. As soon as that reaches end of support, so will parts of FN 11.3. While iXsystems will still publish patches, you will e.g. have a hard time to install packages inside of FreeBSD 11.3 jails. FreeBSD 11.4 jails OTOH are not guaranteed to run on the older kernel. Our experience has been that they do run OK but things like „ps“ or „netstat“ might not work properly inside the newer jail on the old kernel. TN Core 12.0 despite the „12.0“ tracks FreeBSD RELENG_12. So it will continue to get updates of FreeBSD unless the complete 12.x branch will reach its EOL. So TN Core 12.0 is on FreeBSD 12.1, currently and will be on 12.2, eventually. If you run web facing applications in jails you get TLS 1.3 - yay! :-) Confusing? Not so much if you are familiar with the FreeBSD development and release model. I appreciate the move to RELENG_X instead of RELENG_X_Y. Very much so. HTH, Patrick -- punkt.de GmbH Patrick M. Hausen .infrastructure Kaiserallee 13a 76133 Karlsruhe Tel. +49 721 9109500 https://infrastructure.punkt.de info@punkt.de AG Mannheim 108285 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Egeling, Daniel Lienert, Fabian Stein [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEgzqrjO/mj9CSsTg2kG8u4u3aiVwFAl81ZlYACgkQkG8u4u3a iVzflgf/T3F5n4mXpaeBb9tTPhsKln3LfA3heEhisEnJmZ653YGU/mr+RlJ8/ZVh a9YKOgaH59JQAovYvElKbH/jAQMAw22itaY8Ig6jyEih/FJdsg8/fz6tbWiikA9C G4cmJ8Dmpkf+hZMcPbCYi938NRiZUE8fiE5d7tic00twaLK86PQbcU+1jPy5x2Pf 92h2dzEJiACVxBu8n32KS8ffx7IwXQ+z9BwcIOjzcKTPET/Lp0mflr9BC5Y1FF+z Fx6V1SrJ9HgA5q5TV/g6zyELXQxmZQZ033qhYE38h5UBBwED9To8JCB14AF3Ltvt FNJufWmEXRZPAXgTvX4Qq7bbDT5qiA== =Bmki -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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