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Date:      Thu, 1 Feb 2024 16:18:50 +0100
From:      Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com>
To:        Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
Cc:        Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>,  FreeBSD virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD?
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On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:05=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.c=
om>
wrote:

> ---> I understand that Linux native containers can already run on BSD wit=
h
> the Linuxulator layer.
>
> Docker can't run on the linuxulator. Curious to see if kubernetes and or
> runj do it. Me too I know that native code is better,but I know that no o=
ne
> on FreeBSD wants,so instead of using bhyve,if I can,I prefer the lighter
> Linuxulator.
>

Well, it has run in the past: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker

But I don't think anyone really wants Docker and there's the hypervisor for
that. The intent of the thread is to deliberate on native freebsd
orchestration and autoscaling.
I don't think anyone would mind re-writing Dockerfile to Bastillefile or
whatever. What's missing is the other part, the k8s equivalent.

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@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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---&gt; I understand that Linux native containers can already run on BSD wi=
th the Linuxulator layer. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Docker can&#39;t ru=
n on the linuxulator. Curious to see if kubernetes and or runj do it. Me to=
o I know that native code is better,but I know that no one on FreeBSD wants=
,so instead of using bhyve,if I can,I prefer the lighter Linuxulator. <br><=
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Docker</a></div><div><br></div><div>But I don&#39;t think anyone really wan=
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 is to deliberate on native freebsd orchestration and autoscaling.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div>I don&#39;t think anyone would mind re-writing Dockerfile to Bastil=
lefile or whatever. What&#39;s missing is the other part, the k8s equivalen=
t.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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