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Date:      Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:17:07 +0100
From:      Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: mozilla and 4.2-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <20001218191707.H18645@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
In-Reply-To: <ybuk88x4och.fsf@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net>; from rjesup@wgate.com on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:43:26PM -0500
References:  <976986477.3a3ba16db730c@webmail.harmonic.co.il> <20001217051120.A20812@citusc.usc.edu> <20001217150650.B19311@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20001217131405.B47873@dragon.nuxi.com> <20001218084351.A6395@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <ybuk88x4och.fsf@jesup.eng.tvol.net.jesup.eng.tvol.net>

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:43:26PM -0500, Randell Jesup wrote:
> Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> writes:
> >Well, I am not a developer, so I can just speculate... earlier they had a
> >FreeBSD 4.0 test box, but most probably they stumbled upon some C++ problem
> >with our compiler and simply gave up. Later they brought in an old 2.2.8
> >box, but that also was relegated to Mozilla-Test. I guess they tried that
> >because Netscape also uses a.out for their commercial branch on FreeBSD.
> >But later that one also disappeared.
> 
>         I've continued to build FreeBSD 4.1 mozilla's with no problems.
> I track mozilla's trunk on a daily basis and have not had any problems.
> 
>         I don't know what in 4.2 broke them, but I'd expect it's GCC/G++
> related from the comments here.
> 
>         They don't normally pay a lot of attention to FreeBSD.  After
> listening to someone rant at them at meetzilla about how their bug tracking
> mechanisms weren't useful and how supposedly FreeBSD people wouldn't want
> to report bugs using bugzilla (and would instead want to use freebsd's much
> better mechanisms), I'm not surprised.  That person (from a local BSD users
> group I think) cost the freebsd community considerable respect among the
> mozilla developers and mozilla 3rd-party developers.  (IMHO)
> 
>         When specific problems with FreeBSD have been reported people there
> have looked into them; one person even set up a machine and made it
> available to everyone else there for testing.  That was a while ago,
> however, and I've seen few freebsd-specific bugs outside of PSM and java
> issues.

Well, thanks for the info... this is rather sad though... it allegedly
builds fine on NetBSD 1.5, although that never was a supported a
platform... but here we can see that the category "negative advocacy" also
exists.
 
Also, I don't think there that many people actually *using* Mozilla on
FreeBSD... and sometimes Linux issues are also dealt with rather late, like
Java support... I know it is easier to program for Windows but Netscape is
supposed to be the UNIX-browser... well, never mind.

-- 
Regards:

Szilveszter ADAM
Szeged University
Szeged Hungary


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