Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:02:47 +0100 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= <uqs@FreeBSD.org> To: Joel Dahl <joel@vnode.se> Cc: Benjamin Kaduk <bjkfbsd@gmail.com>, src-committers@freebsd.org, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling SmXXrgrav <des@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r246362 - head/games/fortune/datfiles Message-ID: <20130218180247.GC38645@acme.spoerlein.net> In-Reply-To: <20130206074201.GG21730@jd.benders.se> References: <201302051439.r15EdcE7011203@svn.freebsd.org> <201302051158.55117.jhb@freebsd.org> <20130205205547.GI26896@FreeBSD.org> <201302051617.25454.jhb@freebsd.org> <20130206071807.GN26896@FreeBSD.org> <20130206074201.GG21730@jd.benders.se>
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On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 08:42:01 +0100, Joel Dahl wrote: > On 06-02-2013 11:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:17:25PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > J> On Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:55:47 pm Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > J> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 11:58:54AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > J> > J> > > On Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:39:38 am Dag-Erling SmXXrgrav wrote: > > J> > J> > > > Author: des > > J> > J> > > > Date: Tue Feb 5 14:39:37 2013 > > J> > J> > > > New Revision: 246362 > > J> > J> > > > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/246362 > > J> > J> > > > > > J> > J> > > > Log: > > J> > J> > > > Remove political propaganda > > J> > J> > > > > > J> > J> > > > Modified: > > J> > J> > > > head/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes-o.real > > J> > J> > > > > J> > J> > > *sigh* > > J> > J> > > > > J> > J> > > I'm sure there are other quotes that people who do not share your political > > J> > J> > > persuasion might find propaganda or offensive, etc. Censorship and freedom > > J> > J> > > of speech is quite a sticky widget, and I think the only truly sane policy > > J> > J> > > is that fortune files are append-only (unless we outright remove them and > > J> > J> > > that seems excessive). And new things should have a very high bar to be > > J> > J> > > added to fortune. Perhaps we should move fortunes-o to ports entirely? > > J> > J> > > > > J> > J> > > > J> > J> > I am more concerned about the insta-MFC than the removal per se. > > J> > J> > Only security or legal issues are cause to go under 3 days, was my > > J> > J> > impression. > > J> > J> > > J> > J> Yes, the insta-MFC is also not appropriate, esp. for something that you know > > J> > J> is going to raise eyebrows when it is committed. Having to debate this sort > > J> > J> of thing in public on mailing lists is also distinctly unhelpful and very > > J> > J> distracting from productive work. Also, I'd like to preemptively ask > > J> > J> developers to refrain from any further commits to the fortunes datfiles for > > J> > J> the time being as the last thing we need is a commit war over this sort of > > J> > J> thing. > > J> > > > J> > What about just moving the entire games subdirectory to ports repo? > > J> > > J> We've already moved most of it many years ago. > > > > The yesterday bikeshed proves that "most" isn't enough. :( The entire games subdir > > needs to be moved. > > +1 > > This is a worthless discussion that seems to pop up from time to time. Move it > to ports. No. There are people that use morse(6) in production code and stuff like random(6) can also be very useful. This is *BSD legacy and if it was for me, the whole games stuff would be brought *back* into the tree from ports. So can we move on to something else now and let this one die? kthxbai Ulihelp
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