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Date:      Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:41:23 +0200
From:      Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
To:        "Donald J . Maddox" <dmaddox@sc.rr.com>
Cc:        Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>, dan@langille.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: too much confusion over kernel building
Message-ID:  <20010118094123.B6927@rapier.smartspace.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <20010118022343.A7286@cae88-102-101.sc.rr.com>; from dmaddox@sc.rr.com on Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:23:43AM -0500
References:  <dan@langille.org> <20010118071534.031B13E02@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010118022343.A7286@cae88-102-101.sc.rr.com>

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On Thu 2001-01-18 (02:23), Donald J . Maddox wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:15:28PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> > > Over the past few weeks and months, I've seen far too many people 
> > > using "make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL" when they should have 
> > > used "config MYKERNEL".
> > 
> > I'm not quite sure we should be advocating using the older, `config
> > MYKERN` method.  It doesn't really have any advantages over the newer
> > one, and suggesting different ones for different purposes will only
> > confuse the novices, IMO.  Plus, `make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL` is
> > quite a bit simpler than,
> > 
> >       config MYKERNEL && cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL && make depend && make
> > 
> > So, my question is, why use the older one?  I can understand why
> > people still use it because they've been doing it that way for the
> > last X years, but that's no reason to teach it to new people.
> 
> It seems to me that most of the confused are usually just trying to
> recompile a custom kernel to add, for example, sound support.  It's
> ridiculous to make these people do a full world build just to be able
> to hear sound from their soundcard.  Obviously, if you have updated
> your source tree from, it's very dangerous NOT to do the buildworld -
> buildkernel - installkernel - installworld dance.  But it's silly to
> advocate that someone who just installed 4.2, and simply wants to hear
> an MP3 must do a full buildworld...  Just my $0.02.

Who exactly is advocating a full buildworld?  The "new" style should not
require a full buildworld.  If it doesn't work, it's a bug.

Neil
-- 
Neil Blakey-Milner
nbm@mithrandr.moria.org


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