Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:39:47 +1300 From: "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> Cc: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, "Victor R. Cardona" <vcardona@home.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <200103062039.f26KdlI55357@ns1.unixathome.org> In-Reply-To: <15013.18818.990246.193990@guru.mired.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306131533.046dfc60@localhost>
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Before this goes much further, might I suggest that a new thread be started instead of continuing it under this one. On 6 Mar 2001, at 14:33, Mike Meyer wrote: > Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types: > > At 12:56 PM 3/6/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > >> I cannot understand why you are attacking me for doing so. The > > >> only motivations I can imagine are (a) that you share Stallman's > > >> spite and hatred; (b) that you've been taken in by the propaganda he > > >> has spread to further his agenda; or (c) you think you have something > > >> to gain within the social group of this mailing list by attacking me. > > >Resorting to mud-slinging just weakens your argument. > > > > I'm not resorting to anything of the sort. Read the above again, > > and you'll see that I am, rather, asking Mr. Siddharthan why HE > > is mudslinging. > > I don't see a single question in the statement you quoted. Instead, I > see you accusing Mr. Siddharthan of spite and hate, being gullible, > simply being malicious, or possibly some combination of the three. All of > those are insulting, and constitute mud-slinging. You do imply the question > by suggesting reasons, but it would have been more seemly to simply *ask*, > rather than throw up a barrage of insulting suggestions. > > You also quoted me out of context, as my original quoted you saying: > > > > Also untrue. I don't "hate" Richard Stallman, though I do believe > > > that what he is doing is unethical. It is Stallman who is filled > > > with hatred -- the result of the trauma documented so well in > > > Steven Levy's book "Hackers" and in Stallman's own writings -- > > > and is causing much harm. I'm speaking out against that hatred > > > and malice. > > Ethics - or lack thereof - are a mudslingers favorite target. Saying that > someone is acting out of hatred and malice in an era when hate crimes draw > special punishments is mud-slinging of the vilest sort. That your arguments > against Mr. Stallman's position seem to inevitably lead to this kind of > personal attack on him may well have something to do with *why* people > accuse you of hating him. -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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