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Date:      Fri, 8 Dec 2000 04:26:16 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        kris@FreeBSD.ORG (Kris Kennaway)
Cc:        dmlb@dmlb.org (Duncan Barclay), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Arrgh - Net-scrape your brains off the wall
Message-ID:  <200012080426.VAA04354@usr08.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001206235741.A8485@citusc17.usc.edu> from "Kris Kennaway" at Dec 06, 2000 11:57:41 PM

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> > Can anyone recommend a "stable" version of Netscape?
> 
> There isn't one, but using the linux version with java and javascript
> disabled works pretty well for me.
> 
> Java has never worked properly from day one on any unix platform I've
> tried - there are some black magic things you can do to not antagonise
> it, which Terry can probably disburse forth on at length, if pressed
> :-) In fact, I've had much better success with recent Linux Mozilla
> snapshots and the JVM plugin - pity it's such a stupendous memory hog,
> though.

They make invalid assumptions about thread scheduling, which
POSIX does not guarantee, but which Windows, and most kernel
threads = process implementation do, with regard to which
thread runs after an involuntary context switch.

FWIW, it seems that they fixed their Java GIF rendered to be
reentrant, recently, even on FreeBSD.

The main "voodoo" is to not move the mouse pointer until
everything is done being loaded, or you may trigger the
scheduler, and reenter their non-reentrant code.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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or previous employers.


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