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Date:      Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:37:10 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Peter da Silva <peter@bonkers.taronga.com>
To:        hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty Jr.)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: TCL vs...
Message-ID:  <199507181137.GAA29597@bonkers.taronga.com>
In-Reply-To: <199507171938.MAA03709@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty Jr." at Jul 17, 95 12:38:21 pm

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>  > > The "FreeBSD killer app" syndrome smells like technology for the 
>  > > sake of technology.

>  > Quite the contrary. It's a challenge to that mindset.

> Sorry I don't consider this a challenge at all.

> Lets assume that for a brief moment or less that you are right.

> What will end users do with FreeBSD?

What do the end users around here use FreeBSD for?

For connecting to the Internet or providing Internet services, mostly.

That's a killer app. There really isn't anything else that can do the job
as well, except NetBSD, and it's not marketed.

> But wait for a real life need it would be best to reboot or move
> over to a different machine which run Windows or some other OS with apps.

Did I say that or are you reading between the lines... between someone else's
lines, it seems...?

> Sounds kind of neat for a University environment or an OS research
> environment :)

> Now what could be a real life need asks Peter?

HotJava. Netscape. Freestone. TIS Firewall Toolkit. Netsite. Apache. Mosaic.
INN. WUftpd. Fuzzball. IRC. ...

But this is a red herring. I wasn't attacking FreeBSD for a lack of killer
apps. I consider the Internet to be *the* killer app for FreeBSD. It's
just so much more stable, reliable, and effective as an Internet host
than just about anything I've used... including BSDI... that it just needs
to be marketed to blow away everyone else's platforms.

I was asking about the applications for *guile*. Something that makes it
worth screwing around with a GPV-infected language when there's 4 other
scheme implementations already in ports.



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