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Date:      Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:17:20 +0000
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers
Message-ID:  <20181004151720.GC74146@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
In-Reply-To: <20181004150720.GA4942@ymer.vnode.se>
References:  <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <20181004150720.GA4942@ymer.vnode.se>

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On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 05:07:20PM +0200, Joel Dahl wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 09:05:16PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > The criteria for exception are:
> >  - Popular in applications where it is likely to be deployed beyond the
> >    support lifetime of FreeBSD 12 (late 2023).
> >    - 5 reports of uses in the wild on machines running FreeBSD 12 will =
be
> >      deemed satisfy the "popular"
> >      requirement.
>=20
> Why doesn't reports of uses on machines running FreeBSD 10/11 count? I do=
n't
> get it. 12.0 isn't even out yet, and most of our users are probably not
> running CURRENT. As I wrote in an earlier email, I have lots of these car=
ds
> running in production - and most of them are on FreeBSD 11. They'll
> likely be upgraded to 12.1 in the future (but probably not 12.0 - I usual=
ly
> skip .0 releases). But doing the jump to CURRENT/12 now is just out of the
> question - these are production systems after all.

For the current poll, good faith intent to upgrade is fine.

-- Brooks

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