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Date:      Fri, 7 Apr 2017 17:44:23 +0000
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
To:        Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>
Cc:        ??ukasz W??jcik <lukasz.wojcik@zoho.com>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Impending NATM removal
Message-ID:  <20170407174423.GB16743@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAK7dMtAZAbPm3dAURqdsNSKBsXe7FwGd1zgJeVpuS=TLjXpEVg@mail.gmail.com>
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The fact that FreeBSD 11 has almost five years of support left is part
of what makes this a good time to remove support from 12.  Updating 11
to support newer cards certainly makes sense.

-- Brooks

On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 06:30:05AM -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote:
> For consideration, stable/11 will be supported until September 30, 2021
> which provides a pretty long window to transition.
>=20
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:15 AM, ??ukasz W??jcik <lukasz.wojcik@zoho.com>
> wrote:
>=20
> > Oh, and mbpool DMA syncing does not work at all and -- at least in patm
> > driver -- causes various issues.
> >
> > This of course can be easily worked around if you choose to let ATM
> > ecosystem stay. If my client agrees,
> >
> > I could also share a patch for patm to make it work with newer ProSUM
> > hardware.
> >
> >
> > -??W
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07-Apr-17 15:08, ??ukasz W??jcik wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Brooks,
> >>
> >>
> >> AFAIK Prosum still manufactures PROATM155M card that utilizes patm dri=
ver
> >> (which is by the way a little bit outdated and does
> >>
> >> not support newer variants of ProSUM cards). I also have clients that
> >> still use ATM and prosum cards and FreeBSD. My guess is that
> >>
> >> they're not the only ones. Just my 5cents. The other thing is that
> >> ATM/NATM infrastructure in FreeBSD seems to never have been
> >>
> >> finished.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> -??W
> >>
> >>
> >> On 07-Apr-17 01:57, Brooks Davis wrote:
> >>
> >>> As previously threatened, I plan to remove NATM support next week.  T=
his
> >>> includes the drivers en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and patm(4).  None of
> >>> these devices have been manufactured in the last 20 years so it is ti=
me
> >>> to move on.
> >>>
> >>> The planned commit can be seen at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883
> >>>
> >>> -- Brooks
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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