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Date:      Mon, 6 May 2002 16:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jason Stone <jason@shalott.net>
To:        <security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Telnet Exploit
Message-ID:  <20020506162611.R6630-100000@walter>
In-Reply-To: <GTP3YE3JSQGUYEIE2F0SOTH3D3KQNJKUJJYERK0S@ziplip.com>

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> > 	Why? Do you think ssh is more secure? It may not be. Just think
> > about the complexity of ssh.
>
> Are you for real?  Have you ever sniffed a connection between two
> machines using ssldump?  When looking at a telnet or ftp connection,
> it shows everything, clear as day.

"Blah blah you'd have to be crazy to use telnet, it's plaintext!  Use ssh!"

"Except blah blah ipsec, telnet-over-ssl, etc, openssh has a history of
bad bugs, push crypto down out of the application layer and keep your
high-layer apps simple!"

This thread is not new, and not especially relevent here.


 -Jason

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 I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's
 too young to have logged on yet.  Here's what I worry about.  I worry
 that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say "Daddy, where
 were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?"
	-- Mike Godwin

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