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Date:      Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:53:38 -0700
From:      Paul Traina <pst@shockwave.com>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>, nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams), phk@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-etc@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist 
Message-ID:  <199606221753.KAA22908@precipice.shockwave.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:27:15 %2B0200." <199606220727.JAA13561@grumble.grondar.za> 

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Let me try an alternate idea...

How about we go through and find all the src perl scripts, figure out
how central to using the system they are, and move them into ports on an
as needed basis?

If there's nothing depending upon perl, then we can just keep the perl5
port.

Likewise, let's do the same with tcl before it becomes a problem.

We need to be thinking about UNBUNDLING, not bundling further.  The ports
mechanism is so wonderful, it seems like a damn shame to ignore it in
this circumstance.

Paul


  From: Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
  Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist 
  Michael Smith wrote:
  > The way it was done was, IMHO, wrong.  But we _do_ want Tcl and a more
  > current Perl in the tree.  And other widely-accepted development tools,
  > particularly those that are components (like Tcl and Perl) rather than
  > whole applications (eg UPS).
  
  Hear hear! (More current Perl!)
  
  > Someone should stand up and wear the new Perl.
  
  Hmm... Last time I just _suggested_ this, the flamew^h^h^h^h^hdiscussion
  was a thing to behold :-).
  
  I could help lots with Perl. Things are changing, and I will have
  much more time to do this.
  
  > And I'd suggest the anti-bloatists stop and think a few seconds before
  > bitching.
  > 
  > Look at what disk space (doesn't) cost.  Consider the advantages of having 
  > one _single_standard_ version.  And the fact that Someone Else will
  > be looking after it, not you.
  
  Hear, Hear!
  
  M
  --
  Mark Murray
  46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa
  +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200
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