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Date:      Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:49:12 -0700
From:      "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r284345 - in head: . bin/cat bin/chflags bin/chio bin/chmod bin/cp bin/csh bin/date bin/dd bin/df bin/domainname bin/echo bin/ed bin/expr bin/freebsd-version bin/getfacl bin/hostname bi...
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Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > I agree but 8 -> 11 is a very big jump.
> 
> Not really.  We're in the midst of such a change at $work, but it will

Yes we still use 7.x on most machines - these can build head just fine,
but it is a reasonably controlled environment, with minimal
dependence on the host env.

I was speaking more in terms of the project's boundaries on what they
are willing to support.

> machinery.  The fmake->bmake change has been fairly painful; it's only
> working at all for us because I've hacked fmake on 6.x and 8.x to
> support a few crucial bmake features.

Yes, a common theme at most vendor summits is the ever increasing
maintenance "cost" of falling behind.




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