Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:04:20 +0100 From: Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Vladimir Kondratyev <vladimir@kondratyev.su> Subject: Re: What is evdev and autoloading? Message-ID: <21E2EBA6-F4EE-4608-B2EA-AF731F892583@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20190218225407.GA7187@lonesome.com> References: <CANCZdfrEWX9jJVHUkFNijGpk9ii1H9PsUHtq=nD4M%2BnZacpCrQ@mail.gmail.com> <201902181650.x1IGoRsZ006131@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <20190218225407.GA7187@lonesome.com>
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> On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: >=20 >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> I think one serious problem here is the summary dismissal of things >> simply on the "5 year old" basis. >=20 > IIUC the graphics changes are being forced upon FreeBSD by external > projects (mainly Linux-based) that are making huge architectural changes > that rely more and more on features from newer hardware. >=20 > If our upstreams aren't willing to do the work to keep from violating > POLA on older hardware, IMHO it's an awful lot to ask of our already > thinly stretched graphics volunteers to provide it in their stead. >=20 > w/rt graphics, we are at far more danger of being left further and > further behind on modern hardware than we are at risk of losing users > on older hardware here. >=20 > Again all IMHO. >=20 > disclaimer: I don't use any fancy graphics stuff, so (as the old folks > say around here) I=E2=80=99m very happy (and grateful) that 2018 was the first year in over a= decade I was able to run FreeBSD on a state of the art laptop with all the f= eatures that are essential to me working - which included decent touchpad su= pport provided through evdev+libinput. -m
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