Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 19:21:11 +0100 From: Hans Ottevanger <hans@beastielabs.net> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh Message-ID: <54F89E97.9040203@beastielabs.net> In-Reply-To: <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201503042201.t24M1jDG009278@svn.freebsd.org> <20150305114828.GK17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru>
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On 03/05/15 13:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +0000, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> B> Author: bapt >> B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015 >> B> New Revision: 279603 >> B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603 >> B> >> B> Log: >> B> r* commands are not precious anymore >> B> >> B> Modified: >> B> head/bin/rcp/Makefile >> B> head/usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile >> >> I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? :) >> >> In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require them in base? > > yes. > Some telecom equipment require rlogin. > _______________________________________________ Considering that the r-commands are not particularly large and also not really a maintenance nightmare, a would just keep them. They are (still) more or less part of the standard Unix toolbox, as perceived by end-users, and you had better not make life too difficult for them. The same is true for telnet. I see these tools in use regularly, e.g. to control measurement equipment programmatically. Due to the price tag of those instruments, that won't change overnight. The usage is limited to a LAN however, nobody I know uses these tools over the public Internet anymore. As far as I know only OpenBSD got rid of these tools up to now. Most other Unix(-like) systems still have them. And if they absolutely have to go, what happens to the corresponding daemons in /usr/libexec (rshd and rlogind)? Regards, Hans
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