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Date:      Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:48:36 -0400
From:      Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
To:        ryder_a@chasma.net, ripley@nostromo.in-berlin.de
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jlschwab@uswest.net
Subject:   Re: Resume... (in defense)
Message-ID:  <200006181851.OAA24094@etinc.com>
In-Reply-To: <200006181726.NAA22381@www.invisiware.com>
References:  <20000618031620.B3840@server.nostromo.in-berlin.de> <20000618031620.B3840@server.nostromo.in-berlin.de>

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Its not your age, but your years of direct experience that matter. Most
teens just dont do much.

I'll take an 18yo with 2 years of cgi DB programming in a commercial
environment over a 23yo with an MBA anyday. They'll cost a lot less and get
more done.

I have a Degree in business...learned the computer and datacomm stuff
after, but I didnt know anything useful when I got out of college.
Certainly I was more well-rounded than an 18yo with a narrow understanding
of the world, but until you get 2 years of real experience you aint worth
anything.

Dennis

At 01:31 PM 6/18/00 -0600, Andrew Ryder wrote:
>What he might consider himself might contradict someone elses opinion of 
>his qualificiations. But age and experience have no relation whatsoever. 
>Granted the typical teenager has lack of direction and works at the local 
>McDonalds/Gas Station, but lets take into consideration the broader 
>perspective. 
>
>I am 18 and started a company (Legally registered corporation, not some 
>shit LLC) with someone who is 17. We employ over 30 people currently. We 
>have both edited a business plan and have secured 250K for our company so 
>far and have many other offers from angels. Not to mention a formal (and 
>very respected) BOD has been established, many contacts in the industry 
>(including Lucent), 5k of office space. 
>
>When a CEO of a software company/GM of a radio station and newspaper/CTO of 
>a software company doing network maintainence software for Dell and HP/
>Accounts Executive (of 20 years) from People Magazine want to help out, and 
>read your business plan and think it's awesome - you know that you're going 
>in the right direction. Teens might lack the 'formal everyday' experience 
>but we can sure run a company. The BOD just steers us cleer of iceburgs. 
>
>I got my break when I was 15 and got a 'waved' to work in a company hiring 
>only kids with HS diplomas. Received a great letter of recommendation. 
>
>Telling me teenagers can't do anything, or college degrees are required to 
>go anywhere in life,  then you're missing the reality track on the record 
>of life. 
>
>If anything, teenagers have no boundaries in life and are not worn out by 
>conformity. They are willing to work past barriers adults perceive. 
>
>The fortunate company who gives the boy a chance would benefit from his 
>loyalty because they gave him the chance. He wants to grow his skills in a 
>real world situation and is willing to 'survive bootcamp' of a mentor/
>teacher. He's alot more openminded to going places than adults/people who 
>think teenagers should just go run the fryer.
>
>
>[Jun/17/2000Sat 19:16]
>
>> Consider yourself lucky to be qualified to admin a microwave
>> at a fastfood restaurant.  This might even help you to get a
>> chance to get a real qualification in the near future.
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 				Ripley
>> 
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