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Date:      Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:12:03 -0800
From:      paul beard <paulbeard@mac.com>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        Bob Kovacs <bkovacs@mindspring.com>, Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Free BSD
Message-ID:  <3C92E233.6050807@mac.com>
References:  <1016219646.3c9247fe203dd@webmail.neomedia.it> <3C928B17.5020300@mac.com> <p05101574b8b85ba8ca84@[10.0.1.9]>

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Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 4:00 PM -0800 2002/03/15, paul beard wrote:
> 
>>  I think you're right about that, but it's hard to believe 128 Mb
>>  is insufficient for a desktop/client UI. How did Apple get away
>>  with their (admittedly simple ) UI in 1 Mb on the old all-in-one
>>  toasters? And come to that, I have 384 Mb in a 350 MHz G3 and OS
>>  X is still less than zippy, where OS 9 fairly flies by comparison.
> 
> 
>     That's like asking how did old mainframes with 8KB of core memory 
> function?


They rarely ran KDE2,  I'm sure ;-)

>     You think needing 384MB for FreeBSD is bad?  By my calculations, I'd 
> need 2.7GB of RAM if I had to hold everything in RAM that currently has 
> virtual memory assigned to it, and I need at least 183MB just for the 
> RSS of all my currently running program -- and I really don't have that 
> much going.  At least you have the option of running X without it being 
> layered on top of something like Aqua.
> 

Thanks for the details.Here's a tangent on that: I have no idea 
what happens every hour on  my OS X box, but it seems to spend a 
lot of cycles doing nothing, more so than the FreeBSD boxes I have.

contrast pink (the G3 running OS X)
http://www.mindspring.com/~pkdb/pdb/mrtg/pink/pink-load.html

with red (a Athlon 700 with 256 Mb RAM)
http://www.mindspring.com/~pkdb/pdb/mrtg/red/red-load.html

or blue (a PII 233 with 64 Mb)
http://www.mindspring.com/~pkdb/pdb/mrtg/blue/blue-load.html

No one is sitting at it, it's just idling . . . .


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