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Date:      Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:08:55 -0700
From:      Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Don Lewis <dl-freebsd@catspoiler.org>
Cc:        mjacob@feral.com, attila@hun.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, leimy2k@mac.com
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 5.0 as a desktop 'failure' report
Message-ID:  <20020916200855.A90091@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <200209170255.g8H2tAwr014698@gw.catspoiler.org>; from dl-freebsd@catspoiler.org on Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 07:55:10PM -0700
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0209161824590.86429-100000@beppo> <200209170255.g8H2tAwr014698@gw.catspoiler.org>

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* De: Don Lewis <dl-freebsd@catspoiler.org> [ Data: 2002-09-16 ]
	[ Subjecte: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 as a desktop 'failure' report ]
> On 16 Sep, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> > 
> > I'd use tvtwm or olvwm or even ctwm except that most modern clients
> > won't display correctly under the older X wms.
> 
> mousie:~ 210>ps uax | grep wm
> dl       246  0.0  0.2  2604  800  v0  S     7Sep02   1:15.04 olvwm
> dl       252  0.0  0.0  2916    0  v0  I     7Sep02   0:00.11 olwmslave
> dl     10125  0.0  0.1   996  304  p1  DL+   7:52PM   0:00.00 grep wm
> 
> One of these days I need to track down why the workspace menu isn't
> drawn correctly ...

I use the same Window Manager that worked out of the box on my SunOS,
Solaris, and FreeBSD 2.2 systems: mwm.  Though I sometimes use twm, if
only to scare my girlfriend.

I do, however (unfortunately), use GNOME with Mwm these days.  On my
laptop, on my workstation-thing, on ... I run BSD, or occasionally IRIX
or xMach, but that's beside the point.

If only 5Dwm hadn't died off, and if only there was a good Toolchest in ports,
I'd be totally content, even though I am stuck with 8bit colour on my lappy.

I'm not "average user" but I do use BSD to get all my work done.  And it
works well.  Saying that our LCD _must_+ be "dumb average user" is bad,
aiming for it, however, is good.

juli.
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