Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 02:33:25 +0200 From: Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> To: vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl> Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature Message-ID: <CAFYkXjmaYKq1SOvFBNN0cW0Kras0RZkDmCEG%2B0Ewm6YG1_GDFw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <gblzvammhkzqxmwduyap@vpbk> References: <gblzvammhkzqxmwduyap@vpbk>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 02:28 vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl> wrote: > Hi, > > after short discussion here: > - https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2485 > > I got REALLY concerned. > > One of THE features and selling points of a FreeBSD UNIX system is the > 'untouchable' Base System. > > Without PKGBASE all the features are preserved. > > But when You convert to PKGBASE its ... GONE! > > Consider this command: > > # pkg delete -af > > What it does? > > It removes all third party packages on 'classic' FreeBSD system without > touching the FreeBSD Base System. > > What the same "pkg delete -af" command does on a PKGBASE FreeBSD system? > > It kills/destroys almost all of the FreeBSD Base System and leaves only > two PKGBASE packages called: > > - FreeBSD-clibs > - FreeBSD-runtime > > All the rest of Base System is GONE. Destroyed. > > You do not even have vi(1) editor ad /rescue is separate not protected > FreeBSD-rescue package and its also removed. > > WTF?! > > POLA is the principle that made FreeBSD such predictable system. Where is > the POLA now? > > Why the same *pkg delete -af* command on 'classic' FreeBSD system without > PKGBASE only removes all third party packages and the same *pkg delete -af* > literally destroys most of the FreeBSD PKGBASE Base System? > > Its crazy ... > > Regards, > vermaden > yup :-( -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 02:28 vermaden <<a href="mailto:vermaden@interia.pl">vermaden@interia.pl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br> <br> after short discussion here:<br> - <a href="https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2485" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2485</a><br>; <br> I got REALLY concerned.<br> <br> One of THE features and selling points of a FreeBSD UNIX system is the 'untouchable' Base System.<br> <br> Without PKGBASE all the features are preserved.<br> <br> But when You convert to PKGBASE its ... GONE!<br> <br> Consider this command:<br> <br> # pkg delete -af<br> <br> What it does?<br> <br> It removes all third party packages on 'classic' FreeBSD system without touching the FreeBSD Base System.<br> <br> What the same "pkg delete -af" command does on a PKGBASE FreeBSD system?<br> <br> It kills/destroys almost all of the FreeBSD Base System and leaves only two PKGBASE packages called:<br> <br> - FreeBSD-clibs<br> - FreeBSD-runtime<br> <br> All the rest of Base System is GONE. Destroyed.<br> <br> You do not even have vi(1) editor ad /rescue is separate not protected FreeBSD-rescue package and its also removed.<br> <br> WTF?!<br> <br> POLA is the principle that made FreeBSD such predictable system. Where is the POLA now?<br> <br> Why the same *pkg delete -af* command on 'classic' FreeBSD system without PKGBASE only removes all third party packages and the same *pkg delete -af* literally destroys most of the FreeBSD PKGBASE Base System?<br> <br> Its crazy ...<br> <br> Regards,<br> vermaden<br></blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">yup :-(</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--</div><div dir="auto">CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href="http://www.tomek.cedro.info">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div></div>help
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