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Date:      Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:32:36 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd@gmail.com>
Cc:        Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>, Anna Wilcox <AWilcox@wilcox-tech.com>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>, Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com>, sparc64@freebsd.org, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64
Message-ID:  <20160805153236.GA16908@funkthat.com>
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Adrian Chadd wrote this message on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 07:29 -0800:
> > FreeBSD has an opportunity to fill the void in the secondhand Oracle
> > (Sun) Hardware market if people want to take it.... but I seriously
> > don't see why anyone would buy new Oracle boxes and shove FreeBSD on
> > them - unless their admins already manage FreeBSD on older + Intel hardware.
> >
> 
> As always, someone has to write and debug the code.
> 
> Users are only as good as the revenue to generate to cover
> development/debugging/deployment costs.
> 
> So if you're a sparc64 user, how much would you be willing to pay for
> freebsd/sparc64 support and development?
> 
> I'm all for keeping an architecture like sparc around, as long as
> there's active development and active users. MIPS has both. ARM has
> both. Powerpc has both. Sparc is missing some active developers, but
> it has plenty of FreeBSD users that speak up (and more users that only
> speak up privately.) So, if you want to see sparc64 support continue,
> this requires a grass roots effort to get more development happening -
> either users need to step up, or someone has to start contributing
> money.

If you care, then give donations to the FreeBSD Foundation, and say
you want/need sparc64 and/or sun4v support...

Or find a developer to pay for the work...  These are the straight
forward ways to keep sparc64 alive...

-- 
  John-Mark Gurney				Voice: +1 415 225 5579

     "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."



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