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Date:      Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:11:11 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time)
From:      Adam <element@Dim.com>
To:        jkh@osd.bsdi.com
Cc:        hackers@Freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Query:  How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
Message-ID:  <200106181614.f5IGEjs03281@supernova.dimensional.com>

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I'm not sure if this will help or not but Winsock.h, Winsock2.h, and Ws2spi.h
which are shipped with visual studio 6 include the following in the header:

 * This file includes parts which are Copyright (c) 1982-1986 Regents
 * of the University of California.  All rights reserved.  The
 * Berkeley Software License Agreement specifies the terms and
 * conditions for redistribution.
 */

>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/winsock/apistart_9g1e.htm mentions
>BSD, not sure if is direct enough.
>
>I'm downloading the SDK right now so I can grepmonkey through the latest
>and greatest headers, etc.
>
>HTH
>
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>On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Joseph A. Mallett wrote:
>
>> Do you happen to have any of their Winsock propoganda handy (specifically
>> developer materials or winsock.h header file)? I know for a fact that they
>> have said repetedly that some of it was taken directly from Berkely. I'm
>> just not sure where... I'm going to start digging through my stuff to see
>> if I can find anything.
>>
>> --
>> [ Joseph Mallett            <jmallett@xMach.org> ] [ http://srcsys.org ]
>> [ xMach Core Team         xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ]
>> [ FreeBSD, NetBSD, & xMach User; (Obj)C(++) Coder ] [ http://xMach.org ]
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>>
>> > I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as
>> > to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user
>> > utilities, and though it's always been "common knowledge" in the
>> > community that they were, when I set about to "prove" it I found it to
>> > be less easy than I'd thought.  I've strings'd various binaries and
>> > DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling
>> > proof.  Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques
>> > for confirming or disproving this assertion either way?  It would be
>> > very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > - Jordan
>> >
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