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Date:      Sat, 14 Oct 2000 02:17:19 GMT
From:      "That Guy" <thatguy_11@hotmail.com>
To:        hamellr@heorot.1nova.com
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: -newbies
Message-ID:  <F162NCWbzwWJv3zOdnj00003621@hotmail.com>

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You're missing the point in your example of an admin.  There is a definite 
boundary between questions I would ask about certain subjects in questions.  
I know I am not the only one, but many of my questions are minor, and to 
somebody much more knowledgeable, certainly not worth posting to such a huge 
listserv.  The purpose of this listserv if it focused towards answering 
questions would be an alternative to -questions that has the knowledgeable 
patient ones among us to answer questions, while certainly not wasting the 
time of -questions.  Every time I've posted to -questions I've gotten the 
distinct feeling that my question just wasn't of enough technical merit to 
justify having that many people read it.  Not focusing towards newbies with 
genuine problems I think is a great mistake.  -questions doesn't and can't 
fulfill those requirements.

Josh


>From: Rick Hamell <hamellr@heorot.1nova.com>
>To: That Guy <thatguy_11@hotmail.com>
>CC: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: -newbies
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:45:06 +0000 (GMT)
>
>
> > itself more toward the newer users.  I really don't understand how the
> > mission of this listserv could possibly aim towards regular conversation 
>of
> > newbies.  If anything, this listserv should be a -remedial version of
> > -questions.  Removing this listserv doesn't serve any purpose at all.  
>At
> > least a refocus would do some good.
>
>	It does serve a purpose. The orginal argument for NOT having
>-newbies and not having technical questions in it. Say you've been thrown
>into the position of admin. for your entire company (because you know
>'computers') You inadvertantly ask a question on -newbies, get the wrong
>answer, and boom... your company is down, or worst yet lost lots of
>valuable data. I have seen at least once something similar... People who
>are on -questions may not have time to keep track of -newbies also. Having
>just one technical contact for all customers keeps everything in one place
>so that those who know what they're doing can help even with the seemingly
>'newbie' questions.
>	My major problem is that the questions that are being asked in
>newbies, are not newbie questions! Asking about setting up a pccard, or
>NATD, or DNS, or firewall filters are not in my mind newbie-type
>questions. They are intermediate or even advanced topics. Newbies was
>meant as a place for newbies to spout off about the latest thing they've
>done, or a cool feature they found, or a web site that really helped them,
>etc, etc... But when was the last time such a question came across? In the
>last year, I believe I've only seen one, maybe two posts that I think are
>ontopic for -newbies.
>
>
>						Rick
>
>
>
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