Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:35:10 -0400 From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> To: Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl> Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, "Liam J. Foy" <liamfoy@sepulcrum.org>, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des@des.no>, Peter Grehan <grehan@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/tools/tools/tinderbox/etc current.rc head.rc update_current.rc update_head.rc Message-ID: <200507221335.13286.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050721220856.GA12836@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200507201959.j6KJxkJl000803@repoman.freebsd.org> <200507211726.14034.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20050721220856.GA12836@freebie.xs4all.nl>
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On Thursday 21 July 2005 06:08 pm, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 05:26:11PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote.. > > > On Thursday 21 July 2005 04:39 pm, Liam J. Foy wrote: > > > On Thu(21)/Jul/05 - , Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > > > "Liam J. Foy" <liamfoy@sepulcrum.org> writes: > > > > > On Thu(21)/Jul/05 - , Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > > Please add ia64 back for releng_6 and add powerpc and ia64 back > > > > > > for head. The least. > > > > > > > > > > I agree. I'd like to see them added back please. > > > > > > > > You don't have a vote. Neither does Marcel. > > > > > > Who do you think you are DES? Seriously, am sure you think you're above > > > everyone else. You need to dumb the attitude. > > > > It would be helpful to realize that DES does not have an infinite amount > > of hardware and bandwidth, etc. at his disposal. The tinderbox scripts > > are in CVS, and you are free to setup any number of tinderboxes that you > > wish to have on your _own_ hardware. In other words, if we want to keep > > doing powerpc and ia64 tinderboxes (which I think would certainly be > > desirable) we need to find someone with some hardware to run it on. > > > > <rant> > > In other words again: instead of mouthing off at DES like some two year > > old when his mommy takes away the toy he was borrowing from someone else > > so she can give it back to the original owner, go setup a machine and run > > the powerpc and ia64 tinderbox on it yourself sending out the e-mails to > > the appropriate lists, etc. This is a community project, and when the > > load for a specific task gets too high for one person/machine to handle, > > we ought to be chipping into help share the load instead of beating up on > > the person who's been doing it all by themselves up until now. <grump> > > </rant> > > <rant> > Public/commiter relations go a long way. If there are not enough resources > available of some sort the obvious cause of action would be to ask for > resources. Not to just axe things with a commit message that inevitably > leads to this kind of silly debate. > > </rant> True enough, but unfortunately some folks don't always act like fully mature adults and things will go a lot smoother if people will get some thicker skin and try to solve the real problems instead of yelling at each other. Granted, I yelled, but in <rant> tags to make it clear at least. :) -- John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org
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