Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:32:20 -0700 From: Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> To: Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory Message-ID: <3CC4E3D4.6010603@tenebras.com> References: <002d01c1ea7d$cf1cb060$c33a080a@LUCKYVAIO>
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Lucky Green wrote: > Depends on the user. My rc.conf has perhaps 15 lines and some of those > are simply there because the OpenSSH and bind ports in STABLE tend to > lag quite a bit behind the release and the port versions are installed > in different directories than the those that come with the default > FreeBSD distribution. Same here. But it is UTTERLY ABSURD that everything isn't installed as a package -- even those components in the base system, so they can be removed and replaced with, for example, the ports versions. I don't run BIND or Sendwhale^H^H^H^H^Hmail. I want the version of OpenSSH in the ports. And why the heck is OpenSSL in the system? It's extremely difficult to track -STABLE or -SECURITY and maintain a configuration used in a professional environment. I'm happy for hobbyists to do as they please, but this is another barrier to gaining acceptance for our favorite OS. The rationale for inclusion in the base system as opposed to ports has usually been licensing issues. The trend toward including everything needs to STOP. We need less, not more, in the base system. If some items are deemed so useful that they should be included by default -- such as sendmail -- at least make them packages so that they can be removed, and include config variables so that they are not installed with 'world' rage away, M. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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