Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 00:09:30 -0600 From: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> To: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build tools as separate distribution Message-ID: <39B0999A.BB04EC80@softweyr.com> References: <88176.967669502@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
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Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>
> > As one of the original perpetrators and in fact the one who laid
> > the foundations of sysinstall and "make release" where they lie to
>
> Hmmm. Some historical liberties are being taken here since, actually,
> I believe Rod Grimes deserves a good deal of this title - he's the one
> who wrote much of the beginnings of what we now call release/Makefile
> today.
>
> Also, let's not forget Gary Palmer, who wrote a number of the config
> screens for sysinstall, he and I handling the "UI side" of sysinstall
> with most of my solo hacking being aimed at the menu infrastructure,
> device handling, etc.
>
> Unless I miss my guess, your guilt in this affair lies primarily with
> libdisk, another abstraction in dire need of a rewrite*. :-)
>
> Nonetheless, no matter how many weighty software development tomes one
> quotes, the fact remains: Sysinstall is NOT extensible, easily
> scriptable (I know, I wrote that bit too) or well suited for doing
> mass-production of FreeBSD boxes in a hardware vendor environment.
This is an interesting point. The OpenBSD install pretty much sucks from
a newbie viewpoint, but when you're installing 20 identical systems and
have a programmer handy, it's shocking how easy it is to create a custom
boot disk that just DTRT, dragging the bits off your friendly neighborhood
FTP server.
--
"Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
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