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Date:      Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:33:27 +0930
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        "Claus Guttesen" <kometen@gmail.com>
Cc:        Volodymyr Kostyrko <c.kworr@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: RFC: moving sysutils/fusefs-kmod to base system
Message-ID:  <200809022033.41657.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <b41c75520809020255l790ff91cyd0fb3e1650bb1cdb@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <48BB4FEB.1050906@gmail.com> <200809021912.38401.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <b41c75520809020255l790ff91cyd0fb3e1650bb1cdb@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Claus Guttesen wrote:
> > This has several advantages
> > - You don't upgrade the port unless you want to when building a
> > kernel. - If the kernel API changes you find out because the port
> > doesn't compile then you can make an informed decision.
> > - You don't need a working network connection to rebuild your
> > kernel.
> >
> > </soapbox>
>
> By ports do you mean the ports-system? If that's the case you're

I mean something in /usr/ports.

> mixing the basesystem with applications. The separation of basesystem
> and apps is IMO one of BSD's strength. Why not use portupgrade for
> that purpose?

Then why allow ports to create & install KLDs at all?

This would cause /usr/src to reference an outside source (ie somewhere=20
in LOCALBASE where KLD source would be) but since the user already=20
opted to install a port KLD it seems reasonable.

I did get told that in theory you shouldn't need to rebuild port KLDs on=20
a release branch because the ABI shouldn't change.. That's a bit=20
unsatisfactory because people run -current where this guarantee doesn't=20
apply, and it isn't an iron-clad guarantee anyway :)

Basically it seems to me that it would have no drawbacks and prevent=20
people from forgetting to recompile stuff which could hose them down=20
the track..

=2D-=20
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
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