Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 21:54:16 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt <freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [List] Re: Console output during boot Message-ID: <cf9675c6-5776-4c73-be98-06979a1976fe@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <D09394FD-5F3A-4162-9569-4A8212F064F8@sermon-archive.info> References: <7136899E-4CC4-414D-A4CC-CD2C11C51132@sermon-archive.info> <880e3e21-061f-4d2b-a514-13c6905bcd05@fjl.co.uk> <D09394FD-5F3A-4162-9569-4A8212F064F8@sermon-archive.info>
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On 04/05/2026 21:21, Doug Hardie wrote:
>> As no one else has said anything, all I can think of is the rc_startmsgs variable in rc.conf. This defaults to "yes", meaning display messages like Starting cron, Starting sshd and so on. Are these what you're missing?
> No. rc_startmsgs is set and rc_quiet is not set.
This could be your problem. rc_startmsgs must be set to "yes" somewhere.
However, you might not have understood exactly what I was saying.
Inside a file /etc/defaults/rc.conf there should be a like this:
rc_startmsgs="YES" # Show "Starting foo:" messages at boot
You can override this to "no" in /etc/rc.conf but if it really is not
set to anything (which is what you said) it won't be set to the default
"yes". In other words, if it's not set in /etc/rc.conf and for some
reason it's missing from /etc/defaults/rc.conf then it won't be set to
"yes" and you won't get any messages.
It could also be a broken /etc/rc.subr. Make sure this is normal.
You might also have $rc_quiet set somehow (other options like faststart
switch it on using the service command). You can have faststart set
globally for every service start with rc_fast="yes".
/etc/rc.conf is just a shell script, so it might be an idea to put stuff
like "echo rc_quite=$rc_quiet rc_fast=$rc_fast in there and check what's
happening.
You can also set a flag "rc_debug=yes" to have it run all it's scripts
with the -x option and see exactly where it goes.
Finally, you can get a dump of the non-standard settings using "sysrc
-a", and a list of all the settings using "sysrc -A".
If you're still having troubles, please post "sysrc -A".
Regards, Frank.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/05/2026 21:21, Doug Hardie wrote:<br>
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style="color: #007cff;"><pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">As no one else has said anything, all I can think of is the rc_startmsgs variable in rc.conf. This defaults to "yes", meaning display messages like Starting cron, Starting sshd and so on. Are these what you're missing?
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">No. rc_startmsgs is set and rc_quiet is not set.</pre></pre>
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<p>This could be your problem. rc_startmsgs must be set to "yes"
somewhere. However, you might not have understood exactly what I
was saying.</p>
<p>Inside a file /etc/defaults/rc.conf there should be a like this:</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>rc_startmsgs="YES" # Show "Starting foo:" messages at boot</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>You can override this to "no" in /etc/rc.conf but if it really is
not set to anything (which is what you said) it won't be set to
the default "yes". In other words, if it's not set in /etc/rc.conf
and for some reason it's missing from /etc/defaults/rc.conf then
it won't be set to "yes" and you won't get any messages.</p>
<p>It could also be a broken /etc/rc.subr. Make sure this is normal.</p>
<p>You might also have $rc_quiet set somehow (other options like
faststart switch it on using the service command). You can have
faststart set globally for every service start with rc_fast="yes".</p>
<p>/etc/rc.conf is just a shell script, so it might be an idea to
put stuff like "echo rc_quite=$rc_quiet rc_fast=$rc_fast in there
and check what's happening.</p>
<p>You can also set a flag "rc_debug=yes" to have it run all it's
scripts with the -x option and see exactly where it goes.</p>
<p>Finally, you can get a dump of the non-standard settings using
"sysrc -a", and a list of all the settings using "sysrc -A".</p>
<p>If you're still having troubles, please post "sysrc -A".</p>
<p>Regards, Frank.</p>
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