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Date:      Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:59:22 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Matthias Andree <mandree@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ada(4) and ahci(4) quirk printing
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I think this just outlines the problem - bootverbose is too verbose.

eg, what the audio code outputs. And yes, net80211 when you're doing 11n.




Adrian

On 23 April 2013 23:15, Matthias Andree <mandree@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Am 23.04.2013 09:44, schrieb Alexander Motin:
>
>> Let me disagree. bootverbose keeps dmesg readable for average user,
>> while quirks are specific driver workarounds and their names may confuse
>> more then really help. If every driver print its quirks, dmesg would be
>> two times bigger. There is bootverbose for it.
>
> quirks print hardware shortcomings that FreeBSD is working around, it is
> useful both to reassure users that FreeBSD is aware of the issues as
> well as give them a hint not to buy the same hardware if the quirks have
> too severe an impact (like NCQ unusable).
>
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