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Date:      Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:33:34 -0500
From:      Larry Rosenman <ler@FreeBSD.org>
To:        blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com>
Cc:        Dag-Erling =?utf-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= <des@des.no>, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, mmacy@freebsd.org, Ali Abdallah <aliovx@gmail.com>, pmcnary@cameron.net
Subject:   Re: drm / drm2 removal in 12
Message-ID:  <20180826223334.i4bc4pmux5gojzbq@ler-imac.local>
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On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 06:21:57AM +0800, blubee blubeeme wrote:
>=20
> You seem to miss the point where the you avoid breaking the system for any
> users not on the bleeding edge.
>=20
> You technically adept guys can keep on hacking away, jumping through hoops
> and building your stuff as you see fit.
> Nobody will come take your steal your code away in the night. Feel free to
> keep on working on it, until implementing it
> doesn't break "old users" do the engineering work and improve your
> implementation.
>=20
> There are so many seemingly dead code projects around this linuxkpi stuff
> that you guys just pump out code and abandon
> inconsistent lack of documentation, lack of testing, it's just a huge mes=
s.
>=20
> Work on cleaning all that stuff up and bring something sensible to the
> table, you cannot put onus on the core team to maintain
> that mess going forward because you're not capable of doing it yourselves.

If you don't like breakage, don't run HEAD/-CURRENT.  If it's not out in
HEAD/-CURRENT, we (the project, speaking as a ports committer) can't
move forward. =20


--=20
Larry Rosenman                         https://people.FreeBSD.org/~ler/
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